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Feb 6, 2014 8:44 AM
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Maya seriously needs to calm the whole down damn.

Oh well, at least idols gets more screen time this episode. I'm not a big fan of them but their closeness warmed up the gloom and doom somewhat. Life isn't easy for Samurai Flamenco ;.;
Feb 6, 2014 9:57 AM
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So all the from Beyond members had a octupus like neck piece. The smallest group of members of from beyond were made of 4. An octupus has 8 tentacles. 4^8 = 65536, The exact number of members in From beyond.

Now here's the real kicker:
What does the toy in goto's gf umbrella look like.
Feb 6, 2014 11:02 AM
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Finally took Mari long enough to apologize to them. Glad that they were able to make up. Masayoshi now turns to Gotou for help.
Feb 6, 2014 11:04 AM
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2/5
Feb 6, 2014 11:09 AM
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This is the first episode since the first half that satisfied me. This episode honestly made me so happy, I really do feel like it was a good episode; it felt reminiscent of the first half.

I'm really happy that Masayoshi decided to go back to Goto, and I'm equally glad that the three girls made up (it was about time, Mari...)
Feb 6, 2014 11:10 AM
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I am really thankful that Mizuki punched Mari in the face because she is massive bitch...i really feel bad for Moe. But she must really love her as she was even making out with Mari just after she puked.......

Anyway,i am glad Masayoshi decided to go to Goto.
Feb 6, 2014 11:15 AM
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rly ;p people are so dumb to believe that, he was a hero and day after they all believed he is a terrorist only because it was in news ;p
Feb 6, 2014 11:22 AM
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Yappari, Goto is the best character. Just seeing him at the end made me like this ep :D

Well it was actually the best ep I've seen since the stupid craziness started.

Nice Masayoshi development with how he was resisting his urge to steal. How ironic XD
His conversation with the old man was awesome. The old man is quite an awesome character ^^ Love characters like him.

Mari's part was meh...Dat yuri kiss though ;3

Well, let's see how this goes from here.
Feb 6, 2014 11:23 AM
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Finally an episode that avoided being crazy.
Feb 6, 2014 11:25 AM

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This and the last episode really made me take this show seriously again. It was a fun watch during the craziness with how it made fun of all the super hero tropes but now its time for things to get serious.
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Feb 6, 2014 11:35 AM

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Finally, MMM finally made up. I am glad Mizuki punched Mari good in the face.

And... he got motivated by the one he helped before. Whoo. He finally had the gall to face Goto again. Seriously can't wait how they will overcome the evil of the Prime Minister.
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Feb 6, 2014 11:44 AM

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Man the new op sucks balls. Too bad since the song ain't half bad.
lol @ MMM's method of making up
Feb 6, 2014 11:46 AM

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MMM back together plus Masayoshi goes to Goto for help.

Nice serious tone again.

Seems to be starting the wrap up nicely, but knowing Samumenco, I'm sure there's at least one more (or more) twist(s) left.
Feb 6, 2014 12:10 PM
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Dat Mizuki punch and the MMM Yuri get together was worth the admission price. And seeing the boss in a Hannibal Lecter restraint was pretty funny.

The speech by the homeless guy and going back to Goto kind of brings this whole circle. I'm looking forward to seeing them work together to save the Flamengers and topple the government
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Feb 6, 2014 12:32 PM

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Nice episode
MMM are back together and Masayoshi goes back to ask Goto for help
and still no sign of Goto's GF
Feb 6, 2014 12:44 PM

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They delayed the OP for this still frame hot mess?

Fuck you show and Mari for your pathetic "character development".
Going from her shouting and trauma induced barfing to a kiss and stupid forced flirtatious personality in 2 seconds flat, you pandering piece of shit.

Masayoshi's manager was wrong saying that he's not clever enough to be a criminal.
It's funny because he clearly he was clever enough to avoid the authorities while no one else did.

Anyway I did like the rest especially the part the homeless man and Samurai Flamenco story.
Must have been such a huge weight off Masayoshi's shoulders to learn that some stranger out there isn't out to get him and poison him like the media is doing.

The last scene reminded me why I originally thought this show was going to be a possible favorite of mine.
Too bad there was so much crap thrown into the middle that I can't overlook.
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Myfriendshatehon said:
So all the from Beyond members had a octupus like neck piece. The smallest group of members of from beyond were made of 4. An octupus has 8 tentacles. 4^8 = 65536, The exact number of members in From beyond.

Now here's the real kicker:
What does the toy in goto's gf umbrella look like.
0.0 No way Goto's girlfriend is related to from beyond. She can't be. Can she? Damn that would be a good twist. It might also explain why we haven't seen her as of yet.
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I just decided to give this episode a watch to see how was the gorilla plot twist anime going on and got myself Mari being a slut again, sad. And I still feel awful for Moe, poor girl. At least Mari got the shit out of herself punched, bitch deserved it.
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Masayoshi's manager was wrong saying that he's not clever enough to be a criminal.
It's funny because he clearly he was clever enough to avoid the authorities while no one else did.


I'm pretty sure the manager meant that he didn't have the potential to be a criminal, since he doesn't really have the 'bad' in him to do so. Masayoshi's always been against evil and probably always will.
Feb 6, 2014 1:14 PM
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It was to apologize and ask for help, those details are a nice touch to the series.
Feb 6, 2014 1:20 PM

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Scene with old man touched me. Then showing the flashback with Goto make me smile and teary at the same time. Finally Goto gonna help Masyoshi !!!!!!

Glad MMM made up. Hope they can help out too!
Feb 6, 2014 1:22 PM
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Towards the end of the episode I nearly started crying! The old man's story was so touching. Despite all the crazy episodes, I kind of love this series!
Feb 6, 2014 1:33 PM

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They are going back to their simpler roots. My main gripe with the series is how the execution of the middle part was so bad.

I think this is not going to be the final OP either. It's slightly better than the previous but it's probably just a transition to something else later on.
Feb 6, 2014 1:43 PM

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This means we gotta see Masayoshi in his original Samurai Flamenco outfit again? :D
Feb 6, 2014 1:49 PM

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CAN WE PRETEND THAT the FROMMU BEYONNNDDD arc was never there
because then we can love this show again
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Feb 6, 2014 1:50 PM

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Goto-bro is best bro.

Excited to see where this is going.
Feb 6, 2014 2:35 PM

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Not gonna lie this was a pretty awesome episode, hope it doesn't go full retard again during last few episode.
Feb 6, 2014 2:47 PM

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I loved this episode. Old man scene was great.

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This means we gotta see Masayoshi in his original Samurai Flamenco outfit again? :D


Better. This means we may finally see Goto and Masayoshi with the outfits from the promo material!
Feb 6, 2014 3:27 PM

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CAN WE PRETEND THAT the FROMMU BEYONNNDDD arc was never there
because then we can love this show again


It's great to see this show somewhat returning to what made it so liked in the first place. Hopefully they won't screw it up again and we can have a half-decent series overall.
Feb 6, 2014 3:45 PM

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Now this, THIS was an awesome episode!

Best episode since the gorilla plot twist imo. This show is finally going back to being awesome. I'm so glad I sticked with it, just for this episode.

If they can keep it up, then I can just ignore the middle part and look back at this anime and say it was awesome with a pretty bad middle.
Feb 6, 2014 4:08 PM

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I liked the second part.
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Goto is always there for him.

All dat delicious MMM stuff.
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Myfriendshatehon said:
So all the from Beyond members had a octupus like neck piece. The smallest group of members of from beyond were made of 4. An octupus has 8 tentacles. 4^8 = 65536, The exact number of members in From beyond.

Now here's the real kicker:
What does the toy in goto's gf umbrella look like.

Hahah oh wow. Dammit. If this ends up being true, it'll be so great.
Feb 6, 2014 4:31 PM

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It sure is nice to get a good episode every once in a while... and it just goes to show that they could easily do a much better job with this series if they wanted to. It kinda pisses me off that they tease us with these great episodes and half-ass the rest, I really hope they don't ruin the rest of the series. I'd be fine if they wanted to make a joke of the series, but it's just annoying that they can't settle how they want the series to be.

It looks like they might actually give the final 6 episodes some effort here, though, this episode basically continues off of the feels I felt during the Guillotine Gorilla episode... which we all know what happened after that. If the rest of the series continues with episodes like this, then I think I'll at least give it a 7, maybe even an 8. Otherwise at best it gets a 6.

In terms of the actual episode though, I knew that guy would say that Samurai Flamenco saved him... and it gave me chills when he actually did... I hope they don't kill him because of helping Masayoshi out though.

I was honestly hoping Mari would somehow become Flamenger Yellow or something, I hope she at least helps out here somehow... though I guess she's just gonna go back to her normal career and enjoy some gay ol' threesomes. Viva la yuri.

I loved Goto's reaction: "Took you long enough, baka."
Feb 6, 2014 4:40 PM
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This. Fucking. Serie.
I've never been so gladly surprised since episode 3 of a certain show in 2011, and this show is delivering weekly. I totally disagree with all that sentiment that people are having against the flamengers arc and "the way" the show turned after episode 7. I guess that some people are more plot-conservative than others.
In times were predictability seems like a requirement to be "accepted" and "considered" as a good show, this show however, is absolutely breaking the mold and the reactions are kind of obvious.

Thank you, Manglobe, for risking for real and making something different.
And i know that being different is not the same as being good, but this is not the case of Samurai Flamenco.
Fucking masterpiece.
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inb4goto betrays him
Feb 6, 2014 5:47 PM

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This. Fucking. Serie.
I've never been so gladly surprised since episode 3 of a certain show in 2011, and this show is delivering weekly. I totally disagree with all that sentiment that people are having against the flamengers arc and "the way" the show turned after episode 7. I guess that some people are more plot-conservative than others.
In times were predictability seems like a requirement to be "accepted" and "considered" as a good show, this show however, is absolutely breaking the mold and the reactions are kind of obvious.

Thank you, Manglobe, for risking for real and making something different.
And i know that being different is not the same as being good, but this is not the case of Samurai Flamenco.
Fucking masterpiece.
It's not that it's unpredictable that makes it bad. I would love it if this series was merely random. Unpredictability is good if not taken seriously, but this takes everything it does too seriously to just laugh and say "Man I never saw this coming!". It's not breaking some new undiscovered mold... it's simply stay inconsistent and it's like watching a new series every few episodes. If you look at Space Dandy (I'm not even a huge fan of the show so far), that's an example of the good kind of random... you know the series makes no sense so when bullshit is pulled out of the directors' ass it's consistent and actually fits with the series.

I was actually incredibly bored with the series before episode 7 where the Guillotine Gorilla appeared. But when the episode ended and I just couldn't believe what happened, my hopes for the series skyrocketed and I thought they'd actually do something surprisingly new and interesting. But they didn't... they just pretended like that never happened, and turned it into a generic Power Rangers type series with not a single thing that stood out.

They pretty much just went from a generic vigilante story to a generic Super Sentai series... and now they're acting like that whole Super Sentai part never happened and it's back to being a vigilante series. The biggest problem is that they wasted some serious potential from the Guillotine Gorilla scene.

It's like you said, different doesn't mean good... and neither does being unpredictable. It's not hard to make something that makes no sense... most humans learn that the instant they pop out of their mothers. You basically just said that it's good because most people hate what they did.
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Mari really showed her ass in this episode! I'm glad MMM all made up. Now, I hope I never have to see her again. Unfortuantely, something tells me otherwise. I'm sure she'll have a key role in rescuing all the Flamen Rangers and proving their innocence.

Gotoh was waiting for him. Now that's a good friend!

Why the hell was "fearless leader" restrained like Hannibal Lechter?

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So the old man is the one who got beat up in the park :o Nice way for them to tie it to this current arc.

I really love that scene where Mari herself was ranting about her weakness and shortcomings. She knows it but she can't accept it...then she got decked by Mizuki lmao. MMM made up yay! That Mari x Moe scene made me go mmm... :D! That scene just reminds me of this yuri manga only they look like Mari x Mizuki (NSFW).
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Feb 6, 2014 7:06 PM

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I think it says a lot about this show that when it takes away all the sentai gimmicks, the hero tricks and any semblance of action the result is the richest, most powerful episode that the series has had to offer thus far. I think the show could be a lot better if the tone wasn't so schizophrenic, but all of the sobering moments in this episode really helped.
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If you guys took sometime with the opening, you will notice we got a new suit for Samurai Flamenco! And it looks cool in my opinion, kinda like a gundam helmet with a upgraded version of his third suit. Going off this am going to assume that he will be getting new tools as well. Well, just wanted to say that because am excited for it!
Feb 6, 2014 7:35 PM

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Honestly, I'd say Samurai Flamenco is always exactly what it wants to be and I love the anime for it.
Feb 6, 2014 7:41 PM

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Myfriendshatehon said:
So all the from Beyond members had a octupus like neck piece. The smallest group of members of from beyond were made of 4. An octupus has 8 tentacles. 4^8 = 65536, The exact number of members in From beyond.

Now here's the real kicker:
What does the toy in goto's gf umbrella look like.

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Dear lordy this episode was absolutely god tier
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It's not that it's unpredictable that makes it bad. I would love it if this series was merely random. Unpredictability is good if not taken seriously, but this takes everything it does too seriously to just laugh and say "Man I never saw this coming!". It's not breaking some new undiscovered mold... it's simply stay inconsistent and it's like watching a new series every few episodes. If you look at Space Dandy (I'm not even a huge fan of the show so far), that's an example of the good kind of random... you know the series makes no sense so when bullshit is pulled out of the directors' ass it's consistent and actually fits with the series.


I don't want to put words in anyone's mouths, but i'm kind of getting the idea that you are basically saying that you want the shows to be categorized and organized in a way that you can be capable of knowing what kind of show is going to be since the beginning.

Well mate, being unpredictable means that you can't predict, ergo, you can't sit comfortable watching a "random" show because if the "randomness" keeps being "randomness" it becomes, to a certain degree, predictable.
I mean you aren't gonna be capable of predict the whole plot, but you are going to suspect in certain moments and don't get caught off-guard so much, and that's a very important issue.
Unpredictability has to caught you off-guard because it implies that you are going to try to predict something and you are going to fail.

Also i'm not saying that SF is the epitome of unpredictablity, but it's a main factor of the show and its particular story telling that is somehow breaking the mold. Yeah, not a NEW mold, but it's doing a different stuff from what we/the people/market are used to.

And i don't think SF is inconsistent at all (besides the graphic department), it's clearly an unorthodox way of story-telling, but it has an idea and themes that are getting developed.

It's all about the mass media and its consumption. Its a critique... until now.

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I was actually incredibly bored with the series before episode 7 where the Guillotine Gorilla appeared. But when the episode ended and I just couldn't believe what happened, my hopes for the series skyrocketed and I thought they'd actually do something surprisingly new and interesting. But they didn't... they just pretended like that never happened, and turned it into a generic Power Rangers type series with not a single thing that stood out.

Well, qualifying a show as "bad" just because it didn't follow a certain plot route that you would love after a huge breaking plot point like GG it's kinda biassed.
I know people that hated SamFlam because they loved the shit out of the first sixth episodes and then dropped it after GG, and people that were bored with the SoL-kind-of of the first episodes and loved GG.
You can't be loved by everyone.

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They pretty much just went from a generic vigilante story to a generic Super Sentai series... and now they're acting like that whole Super Sentai part never happened and it's back to being a vigilante series. The biggest problem is that they wasted some serious potential from the Guillotine Gorilla scene.

Well, we have 6 more episodes to see what happens. And i don't think that the super sentai part never happened, i mean, people are in jail.
But i think that one of the many themes that SamFlams cover is the "Cycle".
Life is a Cycle. A Generation is a Cycle. An arc is a Cycle. Hero and Villain, Good and Evil, a Cycle.
Hazama is a new generation of "flamenco", a new Cycle. The story is told in many different arcs that have different approaches, genres and everything. Different Cycle.
Now we are somehow return to the beginning of the show, starting to close the major "Cycle".
What will happen from now? Hell if i know, that was just an unfinished theory, but those themes are getting developed in all the serie and i'm starting to pay more attention to it.

And about the flamengers and stuff, i think that somehow the show is also written in a way to make us "feel" like Hazama. Like every different "arc" is a portrait of the different emotion that Hazama had in that specific moment.
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If you guys took sometime with the opening, you will notice we got a new suit for Samurai Flamenco! And it looks cool in my opinion, kinda like a gundam helmet with a upgraded version of his third suit. Going off this am going to assume that he will be getting new tools as well. Well, just wanted to say that because am excited for it!


As I said before, it's probably the promo picture costumes.
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Myfriendshatehon said:
So all the from Beyond members had a octupus like neck piece. The smallest group of members of from beyond were made of 4. An octupus has 8 tentacles. 4^8 = 65536, The exact number of members in From beyond.

Now here's the real kicker:
What does the toy in goto's gf umbrella look like.
0.0 No way Goto's girlfriend is related to from beyond. She can't be. Can she? Damn that would be a good twist. It might also explain why we haven't seen her as of yet.

Wooah that would be cool. At first I was like what're you trying to get at with an octopus having 8 tentacles...but interesting theory. It would be funny if this was true and Goto's gf did it cuz Masayoshi stole Goto away from her :P jk. But that math seems a little more than coincidental.
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I really enjoyed this episode, it reminded me why I fell in love with Samumenco in the first place. I'm glad to see that this show is going back to its roots and I hope the next six episodes continue doing the same.

Also, I'm looking forward to Goto becoming relevant again next week. The flashback sequence at the end was really nice.
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Myfriendshatehon said:
So all the from Beyond members had a octupus like neck piece. The smallest group of members of from beyond were made of 4. An octupus has 8 tentacles. 4^8 = 65536, The exact number of members in From beyond.

Now here's the real kicker:
What does the toy in goto's gf umbrella look like.


Some people have too much time on their hands. . . jk haha that's really something. I've been thinking to myself, the only small possible hope left for this series is Goto's girlfriend who we know is up to something.

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This episode was definitely reminiscent to the charm that the earliest part of the series had, especially the story of the old man in the park. The first episode I've actually enjoyed since Torture started. It's such a shame that it didn't maintain this appeal and wasted 1/3 of its episodes on sentai pandering nonsensical garbage. Sorry Flamenco, this was a good episode but hardly redeeming.
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